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Ask an Atheist TODAY at 3 p.m. on SCAN TV

Don’t miss the second episode of the call-in show, Ask an Atheist, today at 3 p.m. on SCAN TV, produced by members of Tacoma Atheists and Seattle Atheists.

The topic will be “Epistemology: Knowledge and Belief,” and will look at the philosophical controversies and consensus behind the “Theory of Knowledge” as it relates to the divine and the mundane.

Watch on SCAN TV (Comcast ch. 77, Broadstripe ch. 23 or Limited Basic Cable service ch. 26) or, watch the live video stream at SCANtv.org (click the big grey button in the middle of the page that reads ‘Watch the Online Stream’).

They are on Facebook, and here is the website for the show.

Here’s their YouTube channel, since I appear to be unable to post videos for some reason.

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Coming up: 4th of July freethought picnic in Seattle

On July 4, HOW and the Northwest Freethought Coalition (NWFC) will celebrate Independence Day and the arrival of summer with a potluck picnic. All NWFC group members, friends and area freethinkers are invited to this all-day event on Sunday, July 4. There will be games, hot grills, and good gab!

The picnic will be held at Ravenna Park (2000 NE 58th St.) in Seattle, a convenient and large location that in recent years has drawn up to 200 attendees over the course of the day. The event will begin at 1 p.m., with the potluck meal (grill your own) running from 1 to 3 p.m. and a raffle and music by Jim Corbett from 3 to 4 p.m. Although clean-up will officially occur at 5 pm, we have reserved the park until evening, so you can stay and play for as long as you want.

HOW is leading the planning effort. Please contact HOW treasurer Jim Rybock (206-784-6541) if you want to volunteer or have suggestions for making this the best Freethinkers’ Picnic ever!

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Jesus-4-Less

From our pal Beth, who reports the following:

I try to get involved in local atheist activities that I find interesting, especially undertakings which I feel are exceptionally broad in scope or are particularly challenging. Recently I was told about a movie being produced in my area, presumably by atheists though I imagine atheist friendly believers might be involved as well, and possibly just some people with senses of humor who are more interested in the project for its entertainment value than anything else. The premise of the film is as follows:

Aaron and Jeremy, two wayward twenty something atheists work at Jesus-4-Less, a downtown Tacoma Christian bookstore. They find themselves competing with Christ-Mart, their rival in the bible business, for acolytes and sales; and with each other for the affections of an irresistible and mysterious new co-worker, Michelle.

Amid protests, breasts, and homosexuality with the help of baby Jesus and a midget, the guys find themselves navigating the issues of fundamentalism, love, lust, greed, and marijuana in this dark comedy. Jesus 4 Less is sure to leave you wondering, offended, and most importantly laughing.

Right now the group seems to be in the midst of fundraising, which is always a tricky task to take on and requires a lot of work that often seems thankless. I’m happy to do my part in trying to promote them and their undertaking, and I hope to be able to continue to chip in any support I can along the way.

If you’re in the area, I encourage you to come down this Wed., June 2nd to the Comedy Underground in Seattle and support this group. It’s only 5 bucks, and you might win a spot in the movie (if that’s your thing) or other prizes they’ll be giving away as people come. If you’re not in the area, I’d like to encourage you to look for projects in your area that you have interest in supporting and get involved. It’s fun and it helps shape the face of the community to be more representative of the people that make it up.

When: Wed., June 2nd
Where: Comedy Underground in Seattle
How much: 5 bucks/clams/smackeroos

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Note To My Fundamentalist Christian Friends: Why Religion is Bad or Why I Pick On You

I used to be a fundamentalist Baptist pastor. I spent my teenage and early adult years preparing for and working in Christian ministry. Through a long series of philosophical shifts (a story for another time), I became an atheist. Now that I am a nonbeliever, I find that religious people – especially my believing friends such as you – are very offended by people such as myself who have the nerve to express their negative views about religion. Since I was myself a believer for over 26 years, I understand where you are coming from.

Firstly, you have likely heard the cliche jokes about atheists spending their lives denying ‘God’. The jokes imply that it is pointless to spend one’s time debunking things they don’t believe in. If atheists don’t believe in any gods (or, as you would say, ‘God’) then why do they spend so much time talking about ‘God?’ Of course, if you’ll think this through honestly you will quickly realize how silly and wrong it is. Many Christians spend huge amounts of time and effort debating with and attempting to debunk the beliefs of other religions and philosophies. They don’t do this because they secretly believe these other beliefs are true, but because they sincerely believe they are false and misleading. The same is true for atheists such as myself. I value the truth.

Another important thing to consider is that many atheists are former believers, and so invested much time in beliefs they now consider false. There is a certain self-loathing and heightened annoyance at religion due to this. Also, it is very difficult for a Christian living in America – especially fundamentalists – to realize just how religion permeates much of our society. You probably tend to think Christianity (at least your circle) is being discriminated against, persecuted, shouted down, and so forth. That is natural, and if you believe it you can certainly find evidence to support it. However, the truth is that the vast majority of Americans are Christians and that religion touches practically every aspect of public discourse in America. Of course, if you are a fundamentalist, you largely write off the legitimacy of most other Christian groups. But the differences you make much of are quite insignificant to everyone else.

In order to understand just how much Christianity fills the public sphere in America, you would need to imagine yourself living in a country – such as Iraq – with a majority Muslim population. The subtle differences among the various sects (Sunni, Shiite, subgroups) would be insignificant to you as a non-Muslim. The simple fact is that, in these nations, Islamic beliefs affect everything from media to politics to education. Such is the state (although probably not in the same measure and type) of Christianity in American life.

a Christian interrupting a stranger's day to tell him he's wrong...

You probably don’t understand why atheists don’t just leave believers alone and let people believe what they believe. But I could ask you the same question. Why do Christians try to convert nonbelievers and people of other faiths? In fact, billions of dollars and millions of man hours are spent by Christians every year writing books, producing television shows, marketing to nonbelievers, and even going out into neighborhoods and venues to confront people who haven’t requested any information about your beliefs at all. Of course I know why Christians do these things because I was one. It should suffice to say that atheists can have all of the same reasons as Christians for speaking out: they think the information they have can be helpful, they think the beliefs they are confronting are harmful to society, etc.

And let’s be frank: even outspoken nonbelievers don’t spend nearly as much time or energy promulgating their beliefs as believers. And they certainly don’t practice the confrontational telemarketing-style tactics of soul-winners. As far as vociferous groups go, atheists are probably the most harmless. It isn’t likely that atheists will be on the evening news rioting in the streets or shooting up a church. At best, they will be out debating and writing books and posting to their blogs.

Now, on to the point: Why is religion so bad? Of course, you will not agree with most of my reasons because you believe differently. However, I would ask you to imagine – just imagine – that you believed as I do. Pretend for just a few moments that you didn’t find any evidence at all to believe in any gods or any of the world’s religious claims, and see if it doesn’t help you to understand why someone such as myself finds religion worth confronting.

the money spent for this preacher's airline ticket probably could have been better spent...

1. Religion wastes massive amounts of resources.

For example: When Christian missionaries go to third-world nations with food, medicine, water filtration devices, and other supplies, how much time and effort is spent – not in actually raising the standard of living of the people they work with – but in indoctrinating them (‘discipling’) religiously? Let’s be honest: huge portions of funds, efforts, and educational resources at the dispense of religious charity efforts are spent this way. Now, you think this is acceptable because you believe this ‘aspect’ of aid is more important than the others. But can you understand why somebody like me would find it absolutely disgusting and wasteful? Consider: not only do I think that it lessens the humanitarian impact, but I also think that the religious beliefs being taught are themselves false and damaging.

The same goes for the world’s resources as a whole. What if religious beliefs really are just myths? You find this an absurd proposition. But I believe it. If you were me, what would you think about the fact that much of the population dedicates much time and money to their religious group? Wouldn’t you want to free these people?

2. Religion stands in the way of progress in every way imaginable.

Throughout human history, religion has fought progress at every step: scientific progress, technological progress, moral progress. And there is a reason: religion thrives upon ignorance and control, and is weakened by education and change. Religion is little more than the practice of asserting things are so, as opposed to figuring things out. This is why any time someone figures things out (whether it is the nature of the solar system, the origin of the species, etc.) he had better be prepared to run from religion. Libraries have been burned, scientists have been threatened, reputations have been smeared, and every sort of progress imaginable has been sabotaged in the name of religious beliefs.

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Progress usually wins out. But religion has managed to delay, delay, delay. Think about it: just a couple hundred years ago, protestants were burning people at the stake for interpreting the Bible differently. And today even you, my fundamentalist friend, find that abhorrent. It is your modern sensibilities – those enabled by moral progress – and NOT your religious beliefs that aid you in making this judgment. There are still believers in America who think that black people or white people are cursed by ‘God’. You might find this repulsive as well. But don’t ignore: they use the same Bible you do to make their points.

At every rung on the ladder of progress, the pastor or priest has been there to stave the world off with the Bible and hell. And, when they eventually lose the battle, they simply retreat to the next rung up. If you were me, you would be seriously wondering, “How much would we have accomplished by now if we had given religion the boot?”

3. Religion poisons the mind of children (and adults, too).

When a parent or a teacher tells a child a certain thing is true, the child – more often than not – believes them. Fundamentalists are crippling their children with the things they are teaching them. For instance, you are probably telling your children that biological evolution is a massive lie. You are teaching them, in so many words, that scientists are either just big liars, or just really stupid and gullible people. (I hope you can appreciate the great irony I see in this…) This sort of education is devastating because it teaches children to partition their minds and to reject anything whatsoever – regardless of the evidence – that contradicts their beliefs. And, furthermore, you do not allow your children to consider any alternatives to your religion. You tell them from the time they are born that your beliefs are true and immutable, over and against all claims.

How to Brainwash Children and Disable Their Minds

This produces adults who are, quite literally, mentally disabled. Frankly, any adult who thinks that a universally accepted scientific theory is a big lie because of what his religious book says is mentally disabled. If you were a nonbeliever, you would think this too. Try to understand that to me, this is not different from a person thinking the world is flat or that it rests upon the back of a giant turtle or that evil old women turn into cats. If a person rejects such obvious truths out of hand because of their religious beliefs, they are crippled mentally. And this is only one expression of that disability.

Why is this such a big deal? Because this disability spills over into other areas that affect society even more, such as tolerance, foreign relations, etc. Any time a person holds unjustified beliefs in higher regard than justified beliefs, their critical reasoning skills are damaged and they are potentially susceptible to extreme, irrational influences. It is incidental that your beliefs do not lead you to blow up a bus or fly planes into buildings. Your children will probably not learn that people of other faiths should be exterminated (although they will think God will take care of that with hell…). But they will believe other things that are just as irrational, such as that Jesus is coming back to destroy the earth soon or that homosexuals are wicked people or that if they talk to God he will answer them. I know you honestly believe these things. But again, if you didn’t, wouldn’t the whole thing be quite unsettling to you? Especially if you had once believed it all and now realized just how debilitating it is?

4. Religion robs your life of value and happiness.

This will be a hard one for you to grasp, but I hope you try. You believe that you will live forever, and that your life is important because you have a purpose given to you by your creator. I believe that death is final and that life has whatever purpose we determine for ourselves. Let me quickly set aside a major hangup believers have about ‘purpose’ without gods:

The idea that life without a creator could have no purpose is not rational. Firstly, everybody’s life – including yours – has exactly the purpose that the person himself determines it has. If you think about this, you will realize it is true. ‘Doing God’s will’ is your life’s purpose because you make it your life’s purpose. Secondly, we can easily see the fallacy in this line of reasoning: consider God. If a life only has purpose if it was created for a purpose , then what about God? What is God’s purpose in life? Of course, we would have to say that God ‘just is’. He didn’t choose to be, and he wasn’t created. So wouldn’t the same line of reasoning that says we can have no purpose without God – that our lives are meaningless and that we should despair – mean that a god’s life would have no purpose and that his existence would be entirely meaningless? I think you get the point.

So, if you put yourself in my shoes, you would feel very sorry for those people who spend so much of their life toiling as though they will reap the rewards in another life and as though they will live forever. I recognize that when these people die, they will never so much as see a glimmer of light again much less experience the pleasure and freedom they forfeited in this life to prepare for the next. I know that even those who toil do derive some satisfaction from their efforts, whether it is the simple sense of satisfaction from hard work or the belief that their dedication will be rewarded later. But I believe much of the life that you live – the rules you follow, the initiatives you pursue – will not in fact bring anything other than the present satisfaction you feel.

Think: if you believed that this life is the only life you get, how would you live it? It would instantly become more valuable to you, as it did to me. So would the lives of your loved ones. And the realization that all of the petty things you now believe God cares about (what people do when they are naked, what they drink, what sorts of clothes they wear, what sort of entertainment they enjoy, etc.) are really just decisions you yourself are free to make is a liberating one.

Millions of Muslim women are still treated as property thanks to the oddity of religion

If you believed as I do that this life was the only one people live, and that enjoying life is always good so long as it isn’t at someone else’s expense, wouldn’t you feel inclined to do your part in refuting beliefs that said otherwise? You can, in fact, understand where I am coming from at least to a point: consider the lives of strict Muslims or Amish communities. Consider how Muslim women are expected to dress and act, how isolated the Amish try to remain. Do you not pity them on some level? Do you think these people are wasting their time? Do you think they could potentially be happier on some level if they were freed to live as you do? I think so, too.

Of course, there are many more reasons – and further details – as to why I think religion is bad. However, I think this should be enough to at least help you understand why many nonbelievers feel it necessary to address religion. Ultimately, the reason is as I stated earlier: I value truth. Anyone who values truth will find it difficult to remain silent where they believe myths are being promulgated as fact.

For those of you who are not fundamentalists, I suppose I will pick on you later. ;)

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What a piece of work is man (and woman)…

I’ve gotten a couple comments recently that my postings have been a little…bitter. Which isn’t really my intention, I’ve generally been posting news items, and unfortunately a lot of those news items are those that reinforce cynicism and clarify jaded perspective, so I understand where these comments are coming from.

So here’s something a little different — an example of what can be done when evolution of body, mind, technology and intention all collide and conspire for greatness and beauty. No invisible means of support (either wires of steel or figments of imagined superiority) were used in the making of this film.

I present the Legion of Extraordinary Dancers.

Lovely, inspiring, and an excellent sorbet to follow the news of the week.

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Beck, meet your maker.

Last week right wing wackadoo Glenn Beck spoke out about a scourge taking over the nation’s churches: Social justice. That’s right, social justice. If Jesus ever lived, died, lived again, and then eventually got buried under the Louvre in Paris, he’d be turning over in his grave.

Well, Glenn’s about to face the wrath of the man from high atop the thing — the man being the Reverend Jim Wallis, and the thing being perhaps one of the few respectable religious organizations in America, Sojourners. Testify, Jim!

Christians Urged to Boycott Glenn Beck – The Caucus Blog – NYTimes.com

This week, the Rev. Jim Wallis, a liberal evangelical leader in Washington, D.C., called on Christians to leave Glenn Beck.

“What he has said attacks the very heart of our Christian faith, and Christians should no longer watch his show,” Mr. Wallis, who heads the antipoverty group Sojourners, wrote on his “God’s Politics” blog. “His show should now be in the same category as Howard Stern.”

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Of course, it would be better if it came with less Sky Cake (caution: NSFW language), but we still that you’ll help us make common cause against Beck.

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Pope denies implication in German sex abuse scandal on his pre-Papa watch

For those of you wondering, nonresponsibility isn’t really a word. But then, of course, that’s the least of the Roman Catholic Church’s problems. And it’s always been a problem that went all the way to the top (partly because the Church is a scam, and partly because, in the immortal words of Neo, there is no spoon). [emphasis mine]

Sex-Abuse Scandal in the German Church Touches Pope Benedict XVI’s Archdiocese – NYTimes.com

BERLIN — A widening child sexual abuse inquiry in Europe has landed at the doorstep of Pope Benedict XVI, as a senior church official acknowledged Friday that a German archdiocese made “serious mistakes” in handling an abuse case while the pope served as its archbishop.

The archdiocese said that a priest accused of molesting boys was given therapy in 1980 and later allowed to resume pastoral duties, before committing further abuses and being prosecuted. Pope Benedict, who at the time headed the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising, approved the priest’s transfer for therapy. A subordinate took full responsibility for allowing the priest to later resume pastoral work, the archdiocese said in a statement.

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said he had no comment beyond the statement by the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising, which he said showed the “nonresponsibility” of the pope in the matter.

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Bruce! Welcome!

Bruce Ramsey and Lynne Varney regularly squabble on a Seattle Times Editorial blog series called Civil Disagreement. Today’s topic: the recent 9th Circuit ruling upholding “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance.

I’m posting this for two reasons: First, it’s topical and we’re interested in this sort of thing. Second, it’s good to know that Lynne Varney has been waiting in vain this whole time for someone to have “the guts to stand up for God.” Really? Didn’t realize your omnipotent omnipresence omnibenevolent Creator needed bucking up. Good to know the 9th Circuit can form the cheerleading kickline you’ve been hoping for. Thanks for outing yourself, Lynne. We hardly knew ye.

Ed cetera | Civil Disagreement: One Nation, Under God? | Seattle Times Newspaper

Lynne Varner: Bruce, I”m pleased by what was obviously a tortured ruling out of the 9th Circuit on the Pledge of Allegiance. The divided court said the pledge doesn’t violate the constitutional separation of church and state. Finally, some one has the guts to stand up for God. Now if they could just do so during the holidays when some try to ban Christmas trees at the state Capitol and forbid the word Christmas from being uttered in schools.

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Praying for control of the media?!

Isn’t that a little on the nose? I mean, I thought you’re supposed to just HINT at the coming of the Dominion of God, right?

I’m trying to be serious here, but every time I try to contextualize this video appropriately, I stumble into the phrase “a growing storm” and I can’t stop laughing. Janet Porter is as pathetic as she is barefaced in her requests to God to provide her and her ilk command of our media. Good thing there’s no one listening upstairs; I wonder what the people of Palestine, Israel, India, or China might say about a spontaneously Christianist local media.

Here’s the video.

Janet Porter Prays For Control of the Media: Speaking at the “Convergence 2010: A Cry to Awaken A Nation” conference on March 4-6, 2010, Janet Porter prayers to God to gain control over the nation’s media. (rightwingwatch.org)

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Angelos and Demons…

Missed this one a couple days ago, but just catching up now. Yes, let us all remind ourselves that without God, there can be no morality.

Gay News Watch | Papal aide, Vatican men’s choir in gay prostitution ring

“Put on some music, swallow a Viagra, and adelante!”

That’s the headline in Europe today following reports that a papal aide used an intermediary in an elite Vatican choir to solicit young male choristers and seminarians for prostitution.

Police wiretaps are expected to result in charges against Angelo Balducci, 63, a Papal Gentleman, as lay attendant are called, and the former chairman of the Holy See’s Public Works Department, which is itself caught up in a corruption investigation.

Hat tip to SLOG.

BTW, “Papal Gentleman, as lay attendant are often called” is perhaps the gayest phrase ever, and it’s their own terminology! This is easily worth 2D6 against any saving throw by the Vatican attempting to brush this off.

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